Comments on: Cult of the Dead Cow releases ‘Goolag’ beta http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99 Jon's blog, currently experimenting with a readable but rather gray theme Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:47:17 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Notes from RSA2008 | Mike Andrews http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99&cpage=1#comment-1297 Notes from RSA2008 | Mike Andrews Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:51:46 +0000 http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99#comment-1297 [...] a big fan of, even though I linked to one of his posts and [mis]abeled him as a "fan" - once again, apologies if that was taken the wrong way) was there and has two fantastic posts with some great [...] [...] a big fan of, even though I linked to one of his posts and [mis]abeled him as a "fan" – once again, apologies if that was taken the wrong way) was there and has two fantastic posts with some great [...]

]]> By: MikeA http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99&cpage=1#comment-719 MikeA Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:28:29 +0000 http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99#comment-719 Sorry Jon, please don't take the "fan" label as something bad - I just didn't know what else to put :) In any case, I also havent "run" the tool yet, but will be when I get some more time next week. Looking at the features though, my initial reaction was "why" and "why now". I'll post some more in the comments on my blog later, but sure, it perhaps has "potential" to turn into something more, but as it is at the moment, I don't think it's as news-worthy as it's generating. PS: and as I said on my blog, I like CdD as well, but I just dont think this one measures up (yet) Sorry Jon, please don’t take the “fan” label as something bad – I just didn’t know what else to put :)

In any case, I also havent “run” the tool yet, but will be when I get some more time next week. Looking at the features though, my initial reaction was “why” and “why now”.

I’ll post some more in the comments on my blog later, but sure, it perhaps has “potential” to turn into something more, but as it is at the moment, I don’t think it’s as news-worthy as it’s generating.

PS: and as I said on my blog, I like CdD as well, but I just dont think this one measures up (yet)

]]> By: jon http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99&cpage=1#comment-705 jon Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:20:21 +0000 http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99#comment-705 <a href="http://www.mikeandrews.com/2008/02/25/new-google-hacking-tool/" rel="nofollow">Mike Andrews made some similar points to lamr</a>, describing this post as a "fan comment" (oooh!) and questioning whether the tool would be up to cDc's usual high standards. br0d replies with some observations having tested it. Here was my response: <blockquote>Mike, I haven't run it, so have no idea whether it comes up to their usual standards (bear in mind that it's a beta) -- or how it compares with Site Digger. That's not the point I was trying to make. br0d'scomment captures the important aspect: there's plenty of room for improvement. It sounds like Site Digger and others haven't moved forward to include the kinds of things br0d's talking about, just as commercial Black Orifice equivalents were languishing before cDc's release. Even if Goolag winds up just as one of many, it may well similarly catalyze this market niche.</blockquote> Mike Andrews made some similar points to lamr, describing this post as a “fan comment” (oooh!) and questioning whether the tool would be up to cDc’s usual high standards. br0d replies with some observations having tested it. Here was my response:

Mike, I haven’t run it, so have no idea whether it comes up to their usual standards (bear in mind that it’s a beta) — or how it compares with Site Digger. That’s not the point I was trying to make.

br0d’scomment captures the important aspect: there’s plenty of room for improvement. It sounds like Site Digger and others haven’t moved forward to include the kinds of things br0d’s talking about, just as commercial Black Orifice equivalents were languishing before cDc’s release. Even if Goolag winds up just as one of many, it may well similarly catalyze this market niche.

]]> By: jon http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99&cpage=1#comment-698 jon Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:16:18 +0000 http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99#comment-698 I hear what you're saying -- Johnny's book came out in, what, 2005? And I think Foundstone's "SiteDigger" has been out for a while ... still, cDC's success with Back Orifice makes them a force to be reckoned with and ... Well, to be honest, I just like it whenever I can mention Cult of the Dead Cow. Brandon Baker and I once cited them in IEEE Security and Privacy, and I was psyched about it for weeks. Plus it's a cool logo, a definite plus. I hear what you’re saying — Johnny’s book came out in, what, 2005? And I think Foundstone’s “SiteDigger” has been out for a while … still, cDC’s success with Back Orifice makes them a force to be reckoned with and …

Well, to be honest, I just like it whenever I can mention Cult of the Dead Cow. Brandon Baker and I once cited them in IEEE Security and Privacy, and I was psyched about it for weeks.

Plus it’s a cool logo, a definite plus.

]]> By: lamr http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99&cpage=1#comment-696 lamr Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:01:33 +0000 http://www.talesfromthe.net/jon/?p=99#comment-696 I dont get why this is being "released" now - it's like 2 years behind the curve and there's plenty of other tools out there (which a quick google search will find - whodathunk). Burried as "lame" I dont get why this is being “released” now – it’s like 2 years behind the curve and there’s plenty of other tools out there (which a quick google search will find – whodathunk).

Burried as “lame”

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